Curse

I Eat Noobs · Jul 20, 2008, 02:00 PM // 14:00

[Unsuspecting Strike][Flail][Shove][Falling Spider][Falling Lotus][Twisting Fangs]

8 tact, 11 crit, 11 dagger

Lady Raenef · Jul 20, 2008, 02:34 PM // 14:34

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Originally Posted by Tyla

In the case of IAS and Earthbind, just wait until a certain point where you can continue the chain.

Anyone with a brain can figure that out. Just, if you examine almost every single assassin out there, they'll use attacks even though they'll fail miserably. Happens all the time, sadly. Just pointing it out for the dumb.

Bob Grunter · Jul 22, 2008, 06:45 AM // 06:45

lol these are really fun to play

Tyla · Jul 22, 2008, 12:08 PM // 12:08

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Originally Posted by I Eat Noobs

[Unsuspecting Strike][Flail][Shove][Falling Spider][Falling Lotus][Twisting Fangs]

8 tact, 11 crit, 11 dagger

If I'm not going to be using shadowsteps, I would turn to the Backbreaker 'Sin.

[backbreaker][flail][falling spider][twisting fangs][falling lotus strike][blades of steel]
12+1+1 Dagger Mastery
10 Hammer Mastery
8 Critical Strikes

Sundering Hammer of Fortitude on switch for spiking with Vampiric Daggers of Fortitude. Not sure if a vampiric hammer would be better though, so...

haberu · Jul 23, 2008, 12:06 AM // 00:06

Anyway to transfer this build with out eotn? :[

Trinity Fire Angel · Jul 23, 2008, 01:47 AM // 01:47

nah... don;t even bother wth shove. it;s not as instagib as my SP build. but... why would i say that.... keep using your sub par builds and i will use my shadow prison build.. 100AL target in 5 secs. 12345678

Cathode_Reborn · Jul 23, 2008, 02:05 AM // 02:05

[skill]Glyph of Renewal[/skill][skill]Shadow Fang[/skill]

Now you got a normal Shadow step that can be used every 10 secs.

Shove builds are fine, but I really don't like chains with long cooldowns, especially in AB.

Trinity Fire Angel · Jul 23, 2008, 02:11 AM // 02:11

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Originally Posted by Cathode_Reborn

[skill]Glyph of Renewal[/skill][skill]Shadow Fang[/skill]

Now you got a normal Shadow step that can be used every 10 secs.

Shove builds are fine, but I really don't like chains with long cooldowns, especially in AB.

LOL. i came up with that idea yesterday. ha ha.... it;s amazing how great minds think alike. [glyph of swiftness] also makes [shadow fang] recharge in 30.1 seconds.

problem was, when i started comparing damage of different assassin builds i found that it was a toss up between [glyph of renewal][shadow fang][conjure frost] build and an old [Shadow Prison] build. and well... sorry, the old SP build won on dmg. unfortunately, even the BB sin or Shove sin build doesn;t come anywhere the old SP sin damage or the Renewal Conjure Frost Fang Sin. well... it depends on the chain.... very spammable

1 problem tho... no IAS.

edit: sorry: what i was saying was. Shadow fang build is good, but does not have IAS so it doesn;t kill as fast. It also doesn;t have a snare so people can run away from shadowfang. unless you hit them with a KD or cripple

RavagerOfDreams · Jul 23, 2008, 02:51 AM // 02:51

[glyph of renewal] [shadow fang] [black mantis thrust] [jungle strike] [trampling ox] [falling lotus strike] [twisting fangs]

fairly quick activation time for no IAS. Shadow Fang kinda sucks in its current form deepwound needs to be after 5 seconds not 10.

Trinity Fire Angel · Jul 23, 2008, 07:44 AM // 07:44

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Originally Posted by RavagerOfDreams

[glyph of renewal] [shadow fang] [black mantis thrust] [jungle strike] [trampling ox] [falling lotus strike] [twisting fangs]

fairly quick activation time for no IAS. Shadow Fang kinda sucks in its current form deepwound needs to be after 5 seconds not 10.

have you tried this one?

[build prof=A/E name="My Character12" Cri=10+1 Dag=12+2 Air=8][Shadow Fang][Black Lotus Strike][Black Spider Strike][Horns of the Ox][Falling Lotus Strike][Blades of Steel][Conjure Lightning][Glyph of Renewal][/build]

100AL barrel < 10secs. usually dead before you step out with deep wound. just do the combo and then 1 auto attack will kill off the barrel usually (depending on how many crits you get)

Kyosuki · Jul 30, 2008, 07:39 AM // 07:39

Would it still work if i'd replace Failling Lotus Strike by Failling Spider?
I dont have GW;EN,

Tyla · Jul 30, 2008, 12:20 PM // 12:20

^
You'd need to use a +5E and probably a zealous mod, but it'll probably work.

I've recently been running around with some corny SP...

[shadow prison][tiger stance][golden phoenix strike][twisting fangs][black spider strike][blades of steel][way of the lotus][no skill]

I could use Signet of Toxic Shock or the one... that increases damage per conditions for five more damage than Toxic Shock.

BlackSephir · Jul 30, 2008, 02:30 PM // 14:30

Why the hell does Way of the Lotus have hex triangle on its icon?

Tyla · Jul 30, 2008, 02:35 PM // 14:35

You know, I only noticed that because you mentioned it. O_O

Unreal Havoc · Jul 30, 2008, 04:57 PM // 16:57

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Originally Posted by Tyla

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You'd need to use a +5E and probably a zealous mod, but it'll probably work.

I've recently been running around with some corny SP...

[shadow prison][tiger stance][golden phoenix strike][twisting fangs][black spider strike][blades of steel][way of the lotus][no skill]

I could use Signet of Toxic Shock or the one... that increases damage per conditions for five more damage than Toxic Shock.

Lol, I posted that one on PvXwiki way back when Black Lotus Strike was nerfed. Good build imo.

Tyla · Jul 30, 2008, 05:28 PM // 17:28

^
The problem with it is it only just kills people, and that's with Signet of Toxic Shock, and that it has no knockdown. The kills gained by it are extremely fragile unless you get some sort of assist.

Unreal Havoc · Jul 30, 2008, 05:43 PM // 17:43

Depends on what you target. I generally just use it to gank off casters in AB. Most don't stand a chance.

I'm curious as to what attributes you run it with?

Tyla · Jul 30, 2008, 05:46 PM // 17:46

12+1+1 Dagger Mastery
10+1 Deadly Arts
7+1 Critical Strikes
Rest in Shadow Arts with no rune.